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Romans 7:17  So now, no longer am I the one doing it, but sin which dwells in me. (NASB: Lockman)

Greek: nuni de ouketi ego katergazomai (1SPMI) auto alla e oikousa (PAPFSN) en emoi hamartia. 
Amplified: However, it is no longer I who do the deed, but the sin [principle] which is at home in me and has possession of me. (Amplified Bible - Lockman)
Berkley: However, I am no longer the one who does the deed, but sin which is at home in me does it.
Moffatt: That being so, it is not I who do the deed but sin that dwells within me.
NLT: But I can't help myself, because it is sin inside me that makes me do these evil things. (
NLT - Tyndale House)
Wuest:  And since the case stands thus, no longer is it I who do it, but the sinful nature which indwells me;  (
Erdmans
Young's Literal:   So now, no longer am I the one doing it, but sin which indwells me.

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Modified from Irving L. Jensen's excellent work "Jensen's Survey of the NT"

WHAT CONCLUSION DOES HE COME TO IN EXPLAINING HIS CONFLICTING BEHAVIOR? COULD THIS STATEMENT BE MADE BY AN UNSAVED OR A SAVED INDIVIDUAL?

SO NOW, NO LONGER AM I THE ONE DOING IT: nuni de ouketi ego katergazomai (1SPMI) auto: (
Ro 7:20; 4:7,8; 2Cor 8:12; Phil 3:8,9)

As you study these passages remember the context. Beginning in Romans 7:14 Paul begins to discuss the conflict of two natures. This section has been one of the most controversial in the New Testament. The majority of modern commentators (men like John MacArthur, John Piper, William Newell, Donald Barnhouse, et al) favor this section to be a description of a saved man who is wrestling with the sinful propensities still present in the physical body of every saved individual. Others feel Paul is discussing an unsaved man in this section. Although I favor the former interpretation, the principles that can be gleaned from Paul's teaching on this struggle are still applicable to all men whatever their status regarding salvation. Click here for a summary of the arguments that favor Romans 7:14-25 as a description of a believer over an unbeliever (or vice versa), as there are legitimate points favoring both interpretations.

Romans 7:17no longer I but sin
THE CRY OF DEFEAT!

Galatians 2:20no longer I but Christ
THE CRY OF VICTORY!

No longer (3765) (ouketi from ou = absolute negation + eti = yet, still) means to negate an extension of time beyond a certain point. The time extends up to that point but no further. In this particular context ouketi (and "now") are not used so much in a temporal sense as in a logical sense.

Vine agrees writing that...

The now means “this being the case.” It is not here an expression of time...As with the now, the no more is not an expression of time, but of argument, as if to say “it can no longer be maintained that …”

MacArthur comments that...

Paul’s new I, his new inner self, no longer approves of the sin that still clings to him through the flesh. Whereas before his conversion his inner self approved of the sin he committed, now his inner self, a completely new inner self, strongly disapproves. (MacArthur, J: Romans 1-8. Chicago: Moody Press or Logos)

Doing (2716) (katergazomai from katá = down or here as an intensifying preposition + ergázomai = to work or to engage in an activity involving considerable expenditure of effort) means to work out fully and so to accomplish or finish a task. It means to work to bring something to fulfillment or completion so that it results in success.

If he's lost, then the Law has come and exposed him showing him that he cannot do anything but commit sins. God has exposed that sinful nature of Adam which is inside of him.

More likely Paul is describing a saved person, presumably himself. As a saved person he says that God has inwardly changed me but because of the Sin that is still dwelling in my mortal body like an unwanted intruder, this intruder continues to harass him. It is the power of Sin within his flesh which keeps pulling me off of the track because I keep looking at the LAW & trying in my own effort to do what God wants me to do.

Newell (who takes the approach that Paul is describing a believer) comments on this section...

"No longer I!" That was a wonderful discovery! For a forgiven Saul, who had gone on in joy awhile without inward trouble, it was indeed a terrible awakening to become again convicted-not now of sins, but of indwelling sin, of a hateful power that seemed one's very self-but was really "our old man." (see next paragraph) But he is making discoveries about himself- amazing things, brought out for the first time in Scripture. He is going much further than "consenting to the Law that it is right" (see note Romans 7:16) ; for now, instead of being completely over- whelmed by this holy, righteous Law; he arrives at (and writes down for us!) a conclusion that is daring: Since I am doing what I am not wishing, there must be another and evil principle working within me. For it is not my real self that is working out this evil, but sin which dwelleth in me. An unwelcome, hateful presence!

For, though our Old Man was crucified with Christ, put in the place of certain, though not instant death - we find, though we have "put him off" (see note Ephesians 3:9) we must "put away, " as to every thing of the former life, "the Old Man" (see note Ephesians 4:22). And, to be put away, he must be discovered to us, and this is what is so vividly set before - us in this struggle.

Note, it is never said the Old Man is dead, but that we died (see note Romans 6:2). We were federally identified with Christ, and passed on with Him into burial (see note Romans 6:3), and now share His Risen life (see note Romans 6:4). The old man is not to be "counted dead" (as some very dear brethren have put it): but to be counted crucified (see note Galatians 2:20) - his place being there only. (Romans 7)

BUT (the) SIN WHICH INDWELLS ME: alla e oikousa (PAPFSN) en emoi hamartia: (Ro 7:18,20,23; Js 4:5,6)

But the sin - Paul is not giving us a reason to excuse our sin if we are believers. We cannot just say "Sin made me commit sins!" and go blithely along as if we have no culpability.

As Godet says...

It is not to be thought that Paul wishes to exculpate himself in the least when he says "It is not I who do it, but sin." On the contrary, he wishes to make the miserable state of bondage to which he is reduced the more palpable; he is not master even in his own house; there he finds a tyrant who forces him to act in opposition to his better wishes. What humiliation! What misery! It is the state of sin regarded from its painful rather than from its culpable point of view. (Godet, F L: Commentary on Romans. Kregel. 1998)

Vine adds that...

This verse provides no ground of excuse on the part of anyone for sinning, as if it was not the person who did it but the responsibility lay upon an inward principle. That is not the apostle’s meaning at all. Moreover, it runs contrary to his whole line of argument, which represents the believer as in a struggle under the realization of the sinfulness of sin as evoked by the Law and as one who disapproves of the act. (Vine, W. Collected writings of W. E. Vine. Nashville: Thomas Nelson or Logos)

Wuest (quoting Denny) comments...

To be saved from sin, a man must at the same time own it and disown it; it is this practical paradox which is reflected in this verse.

Sin - Note that the following explanation of sin is repeated at several points in the notes on Romans 5-8, because it is such an important truth to keep in mind as one studies this this doctrinally rich section of Scripture.

the Sin (266) (hamartia) originally conveyed the idea of missing the mark as when hunting with a bow and arrow and then came to mean missing or falling short of any goal, standard, or purpose. In Scripture sin often describes our thoughts, words and deeds that miss the ultimate purpose God has for each individual, these thoughts, words and deeds falling short of God’s perfect standard of holiness. Now here is where the definition of Sin as used in Romans 5-8 might be a bit confusing. First note that "sin" is singular, so it is not "sins" but "sin" the significance of which becomes more apparent from the next fact. In many (most) of Paul's uses of hamartia in Romans 5-8, Paul places the definite article "the" before "sin" (even though the "the" is not translated in most English versions for it would be somewhat difficult to read). In this way Paul is speaking of "Sin" figuratively, in what is referred to as a metonym (derived from  "meta" = with + "onym" = name") which describes the substitution of a word referring to an attribute for the thing that is meant (eg, the use of the word "crown" to refer to the entire "monarchy").

Now are you really confused? Well, what Paul is doing with the Sin (he hamartia) is to use this word not to describe the actions or results (i.e., the specific sins we commit in thought, word or deed) but to describe the underlying root cause, the principle or, in medical terms (I'm a physician with sub specialization in infectious disease), the "sin virus" we have all inherited from Adam. The Sin is like a highly contagious, lethal virus which every man, woman and child has inherited because every person alive can trace their lineage back to Adam, the first man. The presence of the Sin gene in our "moral make up" is the reason every man, woman and child commits sins (note the plural). Try to keep this distinction in mind when studying Romans 5-8, where Paul refers primarily to the "sin virus", the underlying root cause of why we do the wicked things we do.

Wayne Barber explains sin as follows...

Sin entered the world! (see note Romans 5:12) When you see the word sin in this verse (Romans 5:12), take a pencil and write right behind it "The" (so that it reads "the Sin"). When the definite article "the" (Ed note: look at the Greek sentence above. Do you see "he" before "hamartia"? The "he" is the definite article in Greek, corresponding to the English definite article "the") is used in Scripture, it is very important because it is identifying something as very specific... In English, we would say "THE cup," where the definite article means, not just any cup, but the specific cup. (Romans 5:12-14) (Bolding and italics added)

So it was not a particular sin, but the inherent propensity to sin that entered the human realm so that men became sinners by nature. Adam passed to all his descendants the inherent sinful nature he possessed because of his single act of disobedience. That "Adamic" nature is present in every person ever born from the moment of conception David writing...

Behold (this Hebrew word means "Listen up!" what I have to say is very important!) I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin my mother conceived me. (Psalm 51:5 - Spurgeon's note)

MacArthur explains that...

After salvation, sin, like a deposed and exiled ruler, no longer reigns in a person’s life, but it manages to survive. It no longer resides in the innermost self but finds its residual dwelling in his flesh, in the unredeemed humanness that remains until a believer meets the Lord at the Rapture or at death. “For the flesh sets its desire against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh,” Paul further explained to the Galatians; “for these are in opposition to one another, so that you may not do the things that you please” (see note Galatians 5:17).

In this life, Christians are somewhat like an unskilled artist who beholds a beautiful scene that he wants to paint. But his lack of talent prevents him from doing the scene justice. The fault is not in the scene, or in the canvas, the brushes, or the paint but in the painter. That is why we need to ask the master painter, Jesus Christ, to place His hand over ours in order to paint the strokes that, independent of Him, we could never produce. Jesus said, “Apart from Me you can do nothing” (John 15:5). The only way we can live victoriously is to walk by Christ’s own Spirit and in His power, in order not to “carry out the desire of the flesh” (see note Galatians 5:16). (MacArthur, J: Romans 1-8. Chicago: Moody Press or Logos)

Dwells (3611) (oikeo from oíkos = dwelling, home) literally was used to mean to occupy a house, to reside (inhabit, remain).

Oikeo in this context means to dwell and the present tense indicates that this is not just a short term renter but one who occupies the house for as long as believers are in this house called a body. So whether you believe Romans 7 is a believer or an unbeliever, the crucial truth one can never forget is that Sin (personified) dwells in our flesh (believer or unbeliever) and it takes opportunity when the LAW comes around.

This does not mean Paul was avoiding personal responsibility for his actions but was outlining the conflict between his desires and the Sin within. He is explaining the control that the (power of) Sin exerts in a person's life.  The Sin was a tenant that had managed to secure more than just a foothold, but actually roams the place (our body) as if it his home. Paul has moved from a consideration of outward acts to an emphasis on the unwanted indwelling power of Sin. With this alien master in control, no matter how strongly he wants to do the good, he finds himself checkmated and cannot carry out the good.

Every one of us needs to understand the evil of our flesh. On the one hand if a person is LOST, he needs to understand that the evil of his flesh points to the SIN of Adam which dominates a lost person. But once you are SAVED you still need to remember that you have that evil propensity dwelling in your flesh. We know that this is true because there is a battle with the flesh every day of our lives. (see notes Galatians 5:17, 1 Peter 2:11; Mt 26:41).

 

Romans 7:18  For I know that nothing good dwells in me, that is, in my flesh; for the willing is present in me, but the doing of the good is not. (NASB: Lockman)

Greek: oida (1SRAI) gar hoti ouk oikei (3SPAI) en emoi, tout' estin (3SPAI) en te sarki mou, agathon; to gar thelein (PAN) parakeitai (3SPMI) moi, to de katergazesthai (PMN) to kalon ou; 
Amplified:For I know that nothing good dwells within me, that is, in my flesh. I can will what is right, but I cannot perform it. [I have the intention and urge to do what is right, but no power to carry it out.] (Amplified Bible - Lockman)
Berkley: For I know that within me, that is, within my flesh, what is good is not at home; the personal willingness is there by not the accomplishing of what is right.
Moffatt: For in me (that is, in my flesh) no good dwells, I know; the wish is there, but not the power of doing what is right.
NLT:  I know I am rotten through and through so far as my old sinful nature is concerned. No matter which way I turn, I can't make myself do right. I want to, but I can't. (
NLT - Tyndale House)
Wuest:  for I know positively that there does not dwell in me, that is, in my flesh, good; for the being desirous is constantly with me; but the doing of the good, not; (
Erdmans
Young's Literal:  For I know that nothing good dwells in me, that is, in my flesh; for the wishing is present in me, but the doing of the good is not.

HOW DOES HE CHARACTERIZE THIS INDWELLING SIN? WHERE SPECIFICALLY DOES HE SAY IT INDWELLS?  WHAT'S THE IMPLICATION OF THIS SPECIFICATION OF LOCATION? HOW DOES HE SUPPORT HIS CONCLUSION THAT NOTHING GOOD DWELLS IN HIM?

FOR I KNOW THAT NOTHING GOOD DWELLS IN ME THAT IS, IN MY FLESH: Oida (1SRAI) gar hoti ouk oikei (3SPAI) en hemoi tout estin (3SPAI) en te sarki mou agathon: (Ge 6:5
; 8:21; Job 14:4; 15:14-16; 25:4; Ps 51:5; Isa 64:6; Mt 15:19; Mk 7:21-23; Luke 11:13; Eph 2:1-5; Titus 3:3; 1Pet 4:2) (Ro 7:5,25; 8:3-13; 13:14; Jn 3:6; Gal 5:19-21,24)

For (gar) explains that what he said in Romans 7:17 was not intended as an excuse for one's sins. Instead he confesses the powerlessness of flesh for good.

Nothing (3756) (ou) signifies absolute negation. Paul is saying that absolutely nothing that is intrinsically good, inherently good in quality, nothing that is spiritually profitable, useful, benevolent (marked by or disposed to doing good).

Good (18) (agathos) (click in depth study) is that which is  good in its character, beneficial in its effects and/or  useful in its action. Here it describes the kind of good that is framed in a deed that you do for someone else. It is another way of saying a "righteous work". So in me there is no good thing...but he qualifies it -- "in my flesh". So whether he is describing a saved or lost person, he is saying that in his flesh there is no potential to do righteous deeds. So you can still come at it from both sides.

Vine commenting on good writes that...

Whatever may be considered good from the purely natural point of view, is in reality void of that quality in the absence of right relationship with God. The statement affords a further proof of the fact of indwelling sin. (Vine, W. Collected writings of W. E. Vine. Nashville: Thomas Nelson or Logos)

Dwells (3611) (oikeo from oíkos = dwelling, home) (present tense) literally was used to mean to occupy a house, to reside (inhabit, remain).

In my flesh - Paul qualifies his statement about the "whereabouts" of nothing good because (assuming that he is speaking of a believer) in the believer the Holy Spirit dwells, both to work and to will that which pleases God. The Spirit is not in my flesh, because there is nothing good there.

Middletown Bible asks...

Why do we have the parenthesis containing the words, "that is, in my flesh"? This is another hint that Paul was writing from the perspective of a saved person, not an unregenerate person. Paul had to make this parenthetical clarification because he knew that apart from his sinful flesh there was something (Someone) very good dwelling in him (see note Romans 8:9).

MacArthur has an interesting description of the flesh (as used by Paul in this context) writing that...

The flesh serves as a base camp from which sin operates in the Christian’s life. It is not sinful inherently (see note Romans 6:6), but because of its fallenness, it is still subject to sin and is thoroughly contaminated. (MacArthur, J: Romans 1-8. Chicago: Moody Press or Logos)

Flesh (4561) (flesh) can be used in three different ways. It can speak of the body, the physical body that we have, the meat that is on the bones. It can speak of weakness, meaning that which is psychological. It can also mean that corrupt nature which you and I have, that fallen nature and this last nuance is the spiritual meaning in this verse. This declaration in Romans 7:18 does not sound like Paul before his conversion if one compares the way he boasted pre-conversion writing that at that time he was...

as to zeal, a persecutor of the church; as to the righteousness which is in the Law, found blameless (Moffatt "immaculate by the standard of legal righteousness”). (see note Phi